Comments on: The Story of Stuff Critique – a Critique

By: DB

DB — Fri, 02 Sep 2011 23:49:29 +0000

Wow, Clancop is incredibly rude!

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Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:21:18 +0000

[...] A while back I posted on The Story of Stuff. And I received a vociferous response from a blogger called clancop. Though his comments had actually just been pasted into another website which featured The Story of Stuff, I thought they merited a reply. What’s the point in criticising consumerism if it creates jobs and is an important part of our free society? How can we be sure that some of the facts and figures being swapped around are correct? I … Read More [...]

By: Patriot

Patriot — Thu, 03 Mar 2011 23:56:25 +0000

I’m going to have to agree with ClanCop. It seems like this topic was posted for a critique and then when the critique they heard wasn’t the one they wanted, they got scared and tried to make ClanCop and egotistic idiot who brings up irrelevant thoughts to a simple matter. However, there are a lot of good points brought up in ClanCop’s posts and if a few people would get off their high horse and listen with an open mind, they might see that there’s a point to this and even a simple solution to the untrue facts that are brought up in The Story of Stuff.
If something here is truly pathetic, it’s people’s reactions to any opinion that doesn’t fit into the narrow-minded story written in black and white that they think rules the world.

By: Byron Smith

Byron Smith — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:46:03 +0000

Thanks for the post.

I’m afraid I stopped reading each of clancop’s comments within the first paragraph due to his refusal to engage in the discussion with some basic level of respect for fellow human beings. I actually felt rebuked, humbled and encouraged by the patience and graciousness shown by his interlocutors.

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By: Jackson

Jackson — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 18:48:26 +0000

Interesting. There’s so many books that basically echo The Story Of Stuff premise, certainly gathering momentum.
I’m particularly interested in what Daniel Goleman has to say in Ecological Intelligence. Seems to me there’s potential there for real common ground between a lot of people so far polarized.. but I have my doubts. People tend to use powerful arguments, logic, so long as they are at an advantage but when that is threatened they’re often quick to take measures that are contrary to their supposed ideals – in fact, they usually have ‘portfolios’ of complicity, and that’s where original sin can really become devisive, for are we not all ultimately complicit?

Lord I am not worthy to recieve you, only say the word…

Anyway, I’d like to recommend a book The Master And His Emissary – Iain McGilchrist.

By: Jason Tyne

Jason Tyne — Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:38:11 +0000

Wow…Clancorp is certainly fired up. I’m sorry to enter this conversation so late…and perhaps I shouldn’t fire it up months later. So far I’m standing in the middle of Lee and Annie. I find both of their films suspect and their facts overly simplistic, but I do understand that they are presenting their theses in a you-tube format and not in a several-hundred page book, so I understand the need for to-the-point presentation of their ideas. Instead I’m looking at their basic theses that they present.

My question to Annie-haters is, “Why are you so upset?” There are so many things in the world to be upset by, why choose to funnel so much time and anger to a video whose basic thesis seems to be “Take stewardship of your planet and responsibility to your consuming.” I disagree with many of her facts and the way they are presented, but I’m not sure what harm it could do to showing this to our children. Lee seems offended that children might start buying less Legos. Would this be so bad?

By: Sean ollett

Sean ollett — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:40:17 +0000

Clancop: brilliant. Kepp knocking these dreamy liberals. I liked the Friedman was a central planner. Oh their ignorance is amazing.
I just dropped in here because I am searching for a decent hatchet job no the Fair Trade movement. Don’t htink I shall find it here!

By: Mark

Mark — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:04:53 +0000

Thanks Ben, I’m really trying to get my head round the economic stuff, so I’m grateful for the chance to debate it – even if it means a little learning on the hoof. For what it’s worth, there’s a really thought provoking book called The Rebel Sell which steers an interesting middle line (i.e., there’s no point in just protesting against consmerism in a trendy, ineffective way; we need to be realistic and consider decent political ways forward). I’m also keping a close eye on what comes out of the New Economics Foundation. We’ll get there in the end…!

By: Ben Grigg

Ben Grigg — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:00:03 +0000

Just wanted to say thank you to Mark for his excellent response to Story of Stuff’s Critique.
Regarding Clancop, I stopped reading his comments as soon as he started using insulting language. He appears to be a grumpy fellow.